My experience

I'd like to share my experience in case it can help someone.

I am a 31 year old female. I had flu like symptoms (docs tell me it was most likely food poisoning) for three days a week before I started having any GBS symptoms. On April 3, 2014 I went to bed with an extremely sore neck, couldn't sleep, and got up the next day and the bottom half of my face was tingling. I got in to see my chiropractor first thing in the morning and see advised me to go to emergency as she thought it could be a complication from a viral infection. I headed to the urgent care centre near my home, my blood work looked good and they told me that I was having an anxiety attack and my face was tingling because I wasn't getting enough air. I was sure that this wasn't the case, but I went home. Over the course of the day the pain in my neck started to spread down my spine and into my hips. I was in so much pain that I could not eat or sleep. No over the counter medication did anything for the pain. The next morning I went back to see my chiropractor as my entire body was tingling and the pain was so bad. She had a good sense of my "normal" strength and flexibility and she noticed the weakness beginning and my leg flexibility decreasing. She wrote a letter asking that I be screened for Guillain Barre and advised me to go back if I started having any respritory symptoms or difficulty walking. By that evening my eyes were becoming extremely sensitive to light and my legs were feeling rubbery and unbalanced. We went back to urgent care where they laughed at the letter and told me I had a UTI and that I would feel better in the morning once I started on antibiotics. The pain continued to get worse and I had another day of no eating or sleeping. I tried to give the antibiotics 24 hours, but by the next afternoon I could no longer get out of bed without using my arms to move my legs off the bed. We had researched the hospitals and went to the one with neurologists this time. An emergency doctor looked at me, and by that time I was starting to do poorly on a lot of the muscle tests and was having double vision. He called for a neuro consult. The neurologist examined me and recommended a spinal tap to which I agreed. The results came back with elevated protein and they then sent me for an MRI, chest x-ray and EMG. These hours all blur together, but I somewhere along the way I lost the ability to sit up, close my eyes, close my mouth, bend my legs, urinate, deficate and my breathing was down to about 1/3 of normal, but I luckily just avoided having to have a breathing tube. After the EMG I was diagnosed with the Miller Fisher variant of GBS. I was given a small dose of IVIG (all they could get). I stayed in the ER for about 1.5 days and then was transferred to the neuro ward. I underwent 5 days of IVIG and then was monitored for a few days. These days were largely sleepless as I was in a lot of pain and wasn't allowed any narcotics for fear of depressing my breathing further. I had lost most of my reflexes and could only have pureed food. I needed catheters to urinate. However, each day that I got IVIG I improved bit by bit. Towards the end of my stay in neuro I regained control over my bladder and bowels. Throughout my time I had a lot of family and friend support which was invaluable. Even though I lost the ability to sit up, I continued to get my boyfriend to pick me up, put me in a standing position and help me shuffle around as much as I could even though it was exhausting and I walked like a drunk duck. I lost a lot of feeling in my hands, trunk and legs, and what I did feel was pins and needles. I started out around 125 pounds and ended up around 108 pounds. I lost a lot of muscle, strength and stability. Once I had continued to show improvement for a few days after completing IVIG I was transferred to a rehabilitation unit. I was there until May 21, 2014. I worked with physiotherapists and occupational therapists to fix my gait, work on stability and balance and strengthen my muscles. By the time I left my walking looked relatively normal, but I was still quite weak compared to my "normal" (couldn't jog, it was really difficult to get up off the floor, etc.). When I left I was on 2400 - 3000 mg/day of gabapentin as well as amitriptyline. I had a lot of fatigue, dizziness, heart rate fluctuations and high blood pressure (all abnormal for me). I entered out-patient physio and am still going today (also working out every single day at home), but probably won't be for much longer. My hands and feet had very abnormal/painful numbness and tingling with inaccurate heat sensation. My entire right leg had the tendency to go numb.

To deal with the pain I ended up using a Dr. Ho machine (like a TENS machine) to help me sleep. This was a tip that I got from a nurse that dealt with her own nerve pain from fibromyalgia and it helped distract me from the pain. I also got weekly acupuncture and active release sessions which I think have helped me tremendously as I have had a lot of muscle pain. I also have taken various supplements in hopes of supporting my body in healing as quickly as possible. I eat a clean, vegetarian diet and focus on making sure my body has the proper fuel to heal. I started weening off gabapentin as soon as I got home (300mg/week) and feel much better. I would go through 3 days of feeling terrible each day I decreased, but then would feel much better. I am completely off it now and my dizziness, fatigue and heart/blood pressure issues have all gone away.

It is about 4 months out now and I have been working from home part time for the last month (slowly building up my hours). My hands are completely normal now (for about the past week). My left foot is about 90% better and my right foot/leg is about 80%. The same goes for my face. The left side is good, but the right is probably about 2 weeks behind, so I still smile and blink a bit unevenly. I feel like I will be very close to my "normal" by the 6 month mark, if not sooner.

Hope this helps someone out there! Stay positive (but allow yourself a pity party every once in awhile) and work hard (but respect your body's new limits).

You are such a brave survivor, kudos to you for your strength and persistence and shame on the medical system for failing to support you. An inspiring post thank you :slight_smile:

It was very frustrating going through the ERs and getting the proper diagnosis, but once I did I got extremely good care. The neurologists, nurses and physiotherapists were wonderful. I really learned that you have to be persistent because you know your body and whether or not there is something seriously wrong.
I wish you a speedy and complete recovery!

Thank you for telling your story. I did not have the trouble with being diagnosed like you did, but the rest of your story is very similar to mine. I entered the hospital on 4/11 & was there for 4 weeks & then 2 weeks in rehab. I am home now about 9 weeks. I have the symptoms mainly in my arms & legs ( from just above the knees to my feet). Working hard at PT & at home but cannot jog or swim. I have been able to drive my car for the past 4 weeks which is wonderful. I was on gabapentin (got to 3000mgs a day) & still had pain, so I switched to Lyrica (2 weeks of severe pain), I got to the max of 600mgs a day & had worse pain than on the gabapentin. I then switched back to gabapentin & I just the other day got to 3600mgs a day along with nortriptyline & a pain patch bus--- (I forget the name) & the pain is still the same. After reading your story, I am now thinking of weaning off of the gabapentin. Am I understanding correctly that you went down 300mgs a week & that it was more painful during that period. It would be 12 weeks of more pain if I dropped only 300mgs a week.

Yes, it took me about 8 weeks to get off gabapentin from my dose of 2400-3000 mg/day. I discussed my plan with my family doctor before I started decreasing and she had approved me to decrease by even 600 mg/week if I wanted. I had done some reading about coming off of gabapentin and knew that slow and steady would probably make it a little less terrible. My plan was just to keep reducing until I found the minimum effective dose. I think we all end up on such high doses because our medication options are so limited and so we end up taking more and more even though our symptoms don't really improve (and then you get the dizziness, high blood pressure, racing heart and diarrhea). Each time I decreased I went through a pretty predictable pattern. The first day I'd feel about the same. The second and third days I'd feel very anxious and physically uncomfortable. The remainder of the week I would start to feel better. At the end of each week I'd ask myself if my symptoms were really any worse. If they were the same or better then I'd decrease again the next week. I'd start by cutting the 300 from the time of day that I felt the best (morning for me) and then cut from the next best time and so on. From what I understand you build up a level of the drug in your system, so it takes awhile to reach your "new level". That is why I didn't decrease too fast. If you're only reducing by a small amount then it is easier to get back if you decrease one to many times. I really found that I always felt either the same or better by the end of each week, especially once I got to a low dose (much less tingling and none of the other bad side effects). At the beginning I was using my Dr. Ho machine a lot to help with my feet, but now I don't use anything (except acupuncture and active release therapy).

Hi Kimberly: I just started reducing the gabapentin from 3600mgs to 3000mgs & the pain in the arms & legs got very bad yesterday so I had to take vicadin. I am back to normal pain today. I am going to try your doctor's method of reducing by 600mgs a week & hope I have the same results you did. Do you feel the acupuncture is helping? I went for a treatment last week & then cancelled any future appointments because I felt it was not going to help. I went for acupuncture 3 other times for different problems & it never helped at all. Is active release therapy something you do at PT?

Sincerely,

Larry

Kimberly said:

Yes, it took me about 8 weeks to get off gabapentin from my dose of 2400-3000 mg/day. I discussed my plan with my family doctor before I started decreasing and she had approved me to decrease by even 600 mg/week if I wanted. I had done some reading about coming off of gabapentin and knew that slow and steady would probably make it a little less terrible. My plan was just to keep reducing until I found the minimum effective dose. I think we all end up on such high doses because our medication options are so limited and so we end up taking more and more even though our symptoms don't really improve (and then you get the dizziness, high blood pressure, racing heart and diarrhea). Each time I decreased I went through a pretty predictable pattern. The first day I'd feel about the same. The second and third days I'd feel very anxious and physically uncomfortable. The remainder of the week I would start to feel better. At the end of each week I'd ask myself if my symptoms were really any worse. If they were the same or better then I'd decrease again the next week. I'd start by cutting the 300 from the time of day that I felt the best (morning for me) and then cut from the next best time and so on. From what I understand you build up a level of the drug in your system, so it takes awhile to reach your "new level". That is why I didn't decrease too fast. If you're only reducing by a small amount then it is easier to get back if you decrease one to many times. I really found that I always felt either the same or better by the end of each week, especially once I got to a low dose (much less tingling and none of the other bad side effects). At the beginning I was using my Dr. Ho machine a lot to help with my feet, but now I don't use anything (except acupuncture and active release therapy).

Good luck! I hope that you start to feel better! I only cut down by 300 a week and it was challenging. I found one of the hardest things with cutting down was the emotional side effects that I had, so if you find yourself anxious/weepy for a day, don't be surprised. Try to focus on breathing and relaxation if it happens..

I am getting acupuncture from one of the neuro physiotherapists that I had when I was in the hospital (she is coming to my home and I'm paying her privately). I'm not sure how it would compare to a traditional acupuncturist. I do feel that it helps; especially so in the early days. I would find that I would have less numbness and less painful feeling in my hands and feet after seeing her. She's been focusing on any areas when nerve entrapment can occur. I've continued on with her and now she does a lot in my calves because as I'm walking more and learning to jog again they get very tight and sore. Active release therapy is offered through my chiropractor (it's not something that all chiros do, but a lot are now certified in it). I have had a lot of muscle pain with GBS and these two combined have really helped me with that. I still have some mild issues in my entire right leg, from the sciatic nerve, so they both work in through my hips and it really seems to make a difference with sensation and pain.

I have not had any emotional side effects, only an increase in pain. I will look into active release therapy, because I have lots of muscle & joint pain. My son is a PT in Maryland & I will ask him if he knows about active RT. I am looking forward to being able to move up from just walking. Hopefully I will be able to jog or bike ride or swim in another month or so, I miss the aerobic workout that has been a daily part of my life. If you are able to jog so soon after the hospital then you are having a remarkable recovery. I thought I was doing very well. The difference may be that you are 31 & I am 67, but I was in very good shape prior to the GBS.

Kimberly said:

Good luck! I hope that you start to feel better! I only cut down by 300 a week and it was challenging. I found one of the hardest things with cutting down was the emotional side effects that I had, so if you find yourself anxious/weepy for a day, don't be surprised. Try to focus on breathing and relaxation if it happens..

I am getting acupuncture from one of the neuro physiotherapists that I had when I was in the hospital (she is coming to my home and I'm paying her privately). I'm not sure how it would compare to a traditional acupuncturist. I do feel that it helps; especially so in the early days. I would find that I would have less numbness and less painful feeling in my hands and feet after seeing her. She's been focusing on any areas when nerve entrapment can occur. I've continued on with her and now she does a lot in my calves because as I'm walking more and learning to jog again they get very tight and sore. Active release therapy is offered through my chiropractor (it's not something that all chiros do, but a lot are now certified in it). I have had a lot of muscle pain with GBS and these two combined have really helped me with that. I still have some mild issues in my entire right leg, from the sciatic nerve, so they both work in through my hips and it really seems to make a difference with sensation and pain.

Yes, I'm (relatively) young, was in good shape before GBS and eat a very healthy diet. I think that all of these things are helping me recover quickly (though it seems long, but I know that I am very lucky). You WILL jog again. I started about a month after I left the hospital. It is a very slow progression (alternating 1 minute slow jog with 1 minute walking), but I'm now up to 7 minutes of jogging. I started swimming with a PT just before I left the hospital. The first time I had to use a pool noodle under my arms, but my legs felt so good in the water. They found a pool that I could walk in and walk out and it was wonderful. If you can organize a PT to go with you, you should try swimming again. It really lifted my spirits and made my body feel great. I can now swim on my own, and I can get in and out from a ledge. Both of these milestones took me by surprise as I didn't think that I could do it, but you don't know if you don't keep trying! Once you get to those activities it is pretty amazing how quickly muscle starts to come back. I basically had no calves left, and now I can actually see them!

Thank you for the support. I too am very impatient. I know I will be able to exercise eventually, but I am retired & have too much time on my hands. I was playing tennis 6 days a week before the GBS & miss it a lot. I know that I should be thankful because my case of GBS could have been much worse. I will try a noodle, because my right shoulder & arm had the most damage & I cannot swim but should be able to do a leg workout with a noodle.

Kimberly said:

Yes, I'm (relatively) young, was in good shape before GBS and eat a very healthy diet. I think that all of these things are helping me recover quickly (though it seems long, but I know that I am very lucky). You WILL jog again. I started about a month after I left the hospital. It is a very slow progression (alternating 1 minute slow jog with 1 minute walking), but I'm now up to 7 minutes of jogging. I started swimming with a PT just before I left the hospital. The first time I had to use a pool noodle under my arms, but my legs felt so good in the water. They found a pool that I could walk in and walk out and it was wonderful. If you can organize a PT to go with you, you should try swimming again. It really lifted my spirits and made my body feel great. I can now swim on my own, and I can get in and out from a ledge. Both of these milestones took me by surprise as I didn't think that I could do it, but you don't know if you don't keep trying! Once you get to those activities it is pretty amazing how quickly muscle starts to come back. I basically had no calves left, and now I can actually see them!

Such helpful feedback, thank you!



larry g said:

Thank you for the support. I too am very impatient. I know I will be able to exercise eventually, but I am retired & have too much time on my hands. I was playing tennis 6 days a week before the GBS & miss it a lot. I know that I should be thankful because my case of GBS could have been much worse. I will try a noodle, because my right shoulder & arm had the most damage & I cannot swim but should be able to do a leg workout with a noodle.

Kimberly said:

Yes, I’m (relatively) young, was in good shape before GBS and eat a very healthy diet. I think that all of these things are helping me recover quickly (though it seems long, but I know that I am very lucky). You WILL jog again. I started about a month after I left the hospital. It is a very slow progression (alternating 1 minute slow jog with 1 minute walking), but I’m now up to 7 minutes of jogging. I started swimming with a PT just before I left the hospital. The first time I had to use a pool noodle under my arms, but my legs felt so good in the water. They found a pool that I could walk in and walk out and it was wonderful. If you can organize a PT to go with you, you should try swimming again. It really lifted my spirits and made my body feel great. I can now swim on my own, and I can get in and out from a ledge. Both of these milestones took me by surprise as I didn’t think that I could do it, but you don’t know if you don’t keep trying! Once you get to those activities it is pretty amazing how quickly muscle starts to come back. I basically had no calves left, and now I can actually see them!

Hi all,

I have CIDP (Chronic Inflammatory Demylinating Polyneuropathy) and have had this for 20 months now. The pain is immense. This has affected all the sciatica nerves, so sitting or lying down make it worse. Also have this vibration feeling in the body with a perpetual racing heart, which is terrible. Anybody out there with the same symptoms? Any advice/suggestions on what I could take to help build up the myelin? I know that glyco support and choline are good, but they also have bad side effects on the tummy. Side effects of Lyrica were just too much to bear so stopped that. Speedy Recovery to you all.

Jacqui.